A Leap of Faith: Laurel Nalls on Finding Her Place at Baylor Law School
Counseller's Corner - Season 3, Episode 5:
What does it take to become an attorney who truly understands the person behind the legal issue?
In this episode of Counseller’s Corner, Baylor Law School Dean Jeremy Counseller speaks with third-year student and Student Bar Association President Laurel Nalls about the leap of faith that brought her to Baylor Law School and how her experiences since then have shaped the attorney she hopes to become.
When an opportunity to attend Baylor Law School arose, Nalls faced a big decision and a quick move from Lubbock to Waco. With encouragement from her father to take the opportunity and trust that the details would work out, she made the move and began a new chapter. Since then, she has become deeply involved in Baylor Law School’s legal clinics, where her work with veterans and other community members has strengthened her confidence in working with clients and deepened her understanding of the people behind their legal challenges.
Nalls also reflects on her leadership within the Student Bar Association, the importance of advocating for her classmates, and her plans to return to West Texas to practice oil and gas litigation.
The conversation concludes with a lively lightning round and a discussion of one of Baylor Law School’s significant student-focused changes.
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TRANSCRIPT
Jeremy
Hi! Welcome to another edition of Counseller’s Corner. My name is Jeremy Counseller and I'm the Dean of Baylor Law School, and today I am joined by third-year law student Laurel Nalls. Laurel, how are you doing?
Laurel
I'm good. How are you?
Jeremy
I'm good. So, we're going to start off because apparently, you have a connection to a television show that I actually enjoyed, Cheer on Netflix. A lot of people have seen this show. I watched it, I really liked it. They filmed it at Navarro College. Well, how did you end up having at least a bit part in this show?
Laurel
My freshman year of college I played volleyball at Navarro. It was the 21-22 school year.
Jeremy
Okay.
Laurel
And so, they were filming season two while I was on campus that spring. And so, my little claim to fame is I have like a five second cameo in season two. It's just, it's the last episode or second to last episode. They're filming the showcase that they do in Corsicana before they go to nationals. And it like flashes and so I can kind I know it's me because I know where I was standing and what I was wearing.
Nobody else would. But it was fun. It was definitely like a crazy behind the scenes experience to see. Like the Netflix crews all over campus and…
Jeremy
Yeah.
Laurel
…the dining halls, the gyms, the games. Like literally everything.
Jeremy
It was a fun show. I liked the show.
Laurel
It was. And we didn't have a ton of interaction with the cheerleaders. They lived off campus instead of on campus.
Jeremy
Oh, special.
Laurel
So, they had, like, an apartment complex kind of thing.
Jeremy
Okay.
Laurel
And so, we didn't have a ton of interaction with them on campus. And so, it's kind of neat to see, like, I don't know, it's weird. They were like celebrities even on campus, which was different.
Jeremy
So, Navarro Colleges in Corsicana, right?
Laurel
Yes.
Jeremy
That's not too far from here. But from there you go to Texas Tech.
Laurel
Yes.
Jeremy
And you finished your degree at Texas Tech, right?
Laurel
Yes.
Jeremy
And that's in Lubbock, which is West Texas. You have a love of West Texas?
Laurel
I do.
Jeremy
You are not from West Texas? No. But you love West Texas. Tell me what you love about West Texas.
Laurel
The people are different. The culture is different. Everybody wants to stop and say hi. Everyone, everyone wants to talk to you. It's a lot slower than a normal, I guess, city or whatever. I grew up outside of Dallas, so it's not the Dallas area. It takes 10 to 15 minutes to get everywhere. And then, of course, I love Tech and the Red Raiders.
We're finally good at football. It's a great time to be a Raider fan.
Jeremy
So, I, the, the slower pace of life appeals to me. You know, there's this person from West Texas once told me that, you may have heard this. It's not, this saying is not original to him. God didn't make West Texas for people; He made people for West Texas. Have you ever heard that?
Laurel
I have not.
Jeremy
Apparently, God made you for West Texas.
Laurel
He did.
Jeremy
Because you are returning to West Texas when you finish law school. Am I right about that?
Laurel
I am, I'm going to Midland. So, a little bit.
Jeremy
Permian basin?
Laurel
Yes, to the Permian. It's about an hour and a half from Lubbock. Going to work in oil and gas litigation. It’s the place to do it.
Jeremy
Okay, let's talk about how you got there. Because you're about to graduate. You're not far away from graduation. You know what you're going to do after you finish. And it's West Texas, and it's the kind of work you want to be doing. So that's great. There's a happy ending here, but let's talk about the start, because the start of your Baylor law school journey was, didn't start off immediately positive , as I understand it.
So, tell me when you applied, what, what was our response to your application if you don't mind sharing?
Laurel
So, I applied. I graduated from Tech in December of 23.
Jeremy
Okay.
Laurel
So, I had, I guess was off cycle for a normal law school cycle, started a master's program at Tech, was going to start my master's in accounting, and I was kind of simultaneously applying to law schools at the same time.
In my head, I was going to go to Tech law and do their JD MSA program, get my master's in accounting, JD at the same time, go into tax law. That was my grand plan. And about March, April or so, I wasn't loving that idea anymore. I didn't know why. Just kind of was less sure about it.
And so, I ended up applying to Baylor. I applied summer and fall to start in the summer or the fall. I think the last day of the application was open, got a very quick waitlist, and I was like, well, you know, I applied late, whatever it is, what it is. And then couple weeks later I was like sitting on my back porch.
I lived with my sister at the time, and I was sitting on my back porch and I was like,
Jeremy
Is this in Lubbock?
Laurel
This is in Lubbock.
Jeremy
Okay.
Laurel
Yes, in my master's program working full time. And I was like, you know, I just don't know what I want to do. Like, I have no idea. I feel like I'm supposed to know everything I want to do and have life figured out at 21, 22, and I just don't.
And I'm like, I just need some kind of answer. Like something. I'm sitting there and I'm like, okay, God, whatever your plan is for me, make it so very known like, that's all. Like I just need…
Jeremy
You just need to be slapped in the face.
Laurel
…something. I need something because I'm so unsure and so like, well I could do this. Well, I can do this.
There's too many options. I didn't want to decide. Continue with my night, go to bed, wake up the next morning, go to work and I'm sitting there. It's about 9:30 in the morning and Dean Branson calls me and she's like, hey,
Jeremy
Dean of Admissions at Baylor.
Laurel
She calls me. She's like, hey, spot opened up in the summer class.
It’s yours if you want it. I'm like, okay, cool. This sounds good. I'm like, when's the, when's the summer quarter start? In my head, not knowing a ton about the quarter system. When the quarters start, all those things, I'm like, I got until June maybe or whatever. And she's like, well, orientation starts tomorrow.
Jeremy
It's mandatory.
Laurel
It's mandatory tomorrow, being a Wednesday. Class starts Monday. And I'm like, oh, oh, can I have like an hour or two to tell you? And she was like, yeah, but can you let me know by like 11:30 because we're going to call the next person on the waitlist if you don't want it. I'm like, oh gosh, okay. So, I call my mom. She doesn't answer because she's currently planning my brother's senior prom.
And I'm like, hey, this one's kind of important. Know you're dealing with the prom thing. Kind of need you to answer. Call my dad, and I'm crying and I'm like, I don't. What do I do? And he says, well, didn't you, isn’t this exactly what you asked for? And I was like, that isn't that isn't exactly what I meant.
And he said, just get in the car and go and we'll figure it out. So, I tell my bosses, I'm like, hey, I'm gonna need to leave work, take off, whatever, end up going to orientation. I stay with a friend that lives in Belton. She's at nursing school at UMHB at the time.
Jeremy
Belton is like 35 miles away. Yeah.
Laurel
So I stayed there at her apartment that night. Go to orientation. Orientation’s two days. But I tell Dean Branson, hey, so I can only make one day because I have a final the next day at 7 a.m. for my master's program. She's like, okay, one day is fine. So I go to orientation, get out at 5:00, turn back around, drive back to Lubbock…
Jeremy
Which is like a 5.5 hour, six, six-hour drive.
Laurel
Yeah. So, I get back at like midnight, kind of cram study for my exam, take my exam at seven, seven-thirty the next morning, and then go withdraw from my master's program because I didn't want to take an F in the class.
Jeremy
Yeah.
Laurel
So, I was like…
Jeremy
Theoretically you could pick that up later on and get the credit.
Laurel
Exactly. So, I have the credit. And then I immediately withdrew and I'm like, well, guess I'm going to start packing. I don't know where I'm going to go. Leave Lubbock that Saturday, end up going back to Belton and staying with that friend for a couple days. And my mom had told me, you know, just let me get through this prom deal and I'll come to Waco and look at apartments.
Said okay, stayed in Belton for a couple nights, my first week of class, 2 or 3, and then my dad ended up getting a hotel in Waco just because the drive from Belton back and forth and starting law school and all the new things was a lot. My mom was coming to help look for apartments. We found an apartment that Thursday or Friday of my first week of class, and it was open, available for move in.
We pushed all the paperwork through and I moved in that Saturday after my first week of class. Sister drove down with the U-Haul; the whole nine and just had. And I was like, well, here we are.
Jeremy
Yeah.
Laurel
I…
Jeremy
Your family came together to make it happen.
Laurel
They did. They for sure did. And I owe my sister immensely forever for packing up my entire life in Lubbock and driving, hauling U-Haul with her Jeep.
Jeremy
That's a big thing she did.
Laurel
That is a huge thing with my dog in the car, of course.
Jeremy
And it's in the summer she's doing this, so it's hot.
Laurel
It was very warm.
Jeremy
Yeah, warm, to put it charitably.
Laurel
And it's, and it's humid here. It's not humid in West Texas.
Jeremy
Yeah.
Laurel
So, it was a big, kind of a, well, I guess we're just gonna figure this out and…
Jeremy
Yeah, but that's what your dad told you.
Laurel
Exactly. He said, you know, just start driving and logistically, we can figure it out. And I think that's become a big part of my story of, you know, first of all, like following God's plan is not on your terms. Like…
Jeremy
Yeah.
Laurel
You know, you've got to have some faith and take that leap of faith of,
Jeremy
Yeah.
Laurel
Okay. This is what I feel called to do. I'm gonna go do it and it'll work out along the way. And it has. And then kind of leaning on my people and my family of, okay, we got to get all the stuff down here. We got to find a place to live. Gotta use a friend's apartment for a week because I'm kind of homeless. And it ended up being like, a very… It's a fond memory now.
Jeremy
Yeah.
Laurel
I think day three of law school when I'm, you know, getting used to all the reading and all the class and everything, it was so overwhelming of like, I, I don't even I don't have any friends here. I don't know anybody. I have no idea what I'm doing. I got in the day before orientation started. Like, this is crazy. It was very overwhelming feeling. And then once I finally got moved into my apartment, started to settle down a little bit.
Jeremy
I think there's a lot about law school that it's a fond memory when you're past it, and it doesn't feel, you don't think it's going to be fond while you're going through it.
Laurel
Oh, absolutely. I think that's kind of the whole experience. You're like, well, it really wasn't as bad as I thought it was.
Jeremy
Yeah. Looking back on it, it's great. In the moment, not so much fun.
Laurel
Not as much fun.
Jeremy
Not as much fun. Yeah. It's a, it's a formative time going through law school. Okay. But you're here. You made it here. You got your apartment, and you've done a ton while you're here.
So, let's talk about your work in our legal clinics. Talk, just describe the sort of things that you've done and what that experience has meant to you.
Laurel
So, I've worked in the veteran’s clinic, the estate planning clinic, the juvenile justice clinic, and the entrepreneurship clinic.
Jeremy
That's most of them.
Laurel
All of them but the IP clinic.
Jeremy
Okay.
Laurel
Oh, and I haven't done the family law clinic. But I've been able to see a lot of real legal issues and real problems while also like helping people. I've always felt called to serve in ways that I can. My brother's an active-duty marine, so that was always something that was appealing to me, of serving the veterans.
Jeremy
Yeah, the veteran’s clinic; we provide free legal services to veterans.
Laurel
And then the estate planning clinic as well. We write their wills in their estate planning documents for veterans in McLennan County. So that's always been a rewarding experience. And I think I've always been nervous about like talking to clients or interacting with clients. And what am I going to do, you know, when I'm an associate and going to talk to these clients and what are they going to say?
And so, I've gotten a lot of experience just being comfortable interacting and talking to them. I think Josh is great. And just watching the volunteer attorneys in those clinics.
Jeremy
Josh Broderbund is our director of our clinic program.
Laurel
And he, just the way he interacts with people is like such a goal of mine, to be able to talk to people and relate to people on that level and see people outside of their legal issue.
Jeremy
I think that's really great because we all have our, when we're going through law school and beyond, we'll have our insecurities about what we might not be good at. But then you kind of faced that. You went and did the sorts of things that help you overcome and get better at talking to clients. Is there one client interaction that kind of stands out in all the work that you've done, or one clinic experience that really stands out to you?
Laurel
I think probably my first time in the veteran’s clinic that I met with a client by myself, because at first you start going with another student that has done it a couple of times, or with one of the volunteer attorneys or whatever, just to kind of get a vibe or an impression of what you're doing and things to walk through, questions to ask.
Because as students, we do a lot of the intake and figuring out like what the legal issue is, the facts around it, if they brought any documents with them, those kinds of things, and then we'll go hand it off to one of the volunteer attorneys and kind of get the client pointed in the right direction. And I think my, in my first time, I met this older guy, and I just sat with him and he starts talking and he's talking about his house and he's like, it's kind of a lien situation, roof repair kind of thing.
And he's been getting all these letters, but he does understand what's happening. And he was just so kind and like told me all kinds of crazy stories. I think my first meeting with him was like an hour long, probably about ten minutes of legal issues and then a bunch of background. And he was also a marine, and it was just such a fun experience of like, okay, well, first of all, I can do this.
I can sit and interact and talk with clients, but also of, you know, this is so much bigger than this guy's roof. And so, I was able to then go meet with Professor Fuselier, because she's the property professor, and she volunteers a lot with the legal clinics, and we were kind of able to work out a solution for this guy that honestly, I didn't even think was an option.
And it ended up being excellent for him and there really was no problem. But there was kind of some fun and games going on with the company that had done the roof and stuff, and so just being able to see him in like the relief wash over him when we were able to tell him, you know, this, this is scaring you and we know it is.
But like, we have a plan for you. There is a solution to this problem. And it's really a very mild problem, not to discount his fear, but this is really good news.
Jeremy
It's fixable.
Laurel
Exactly. It's fixable. It's not going to cost you much money. All of these worries that he had just melt away. And he was so grateful and he was crying and he was just so happy of like, I really appreciate you all in all of these things. It was just such a good experience.
Jeremy
I, I think serving our veteran community here in McLennan County and our first responders is one of the best things that we do because it's like this perfect synergy, we’re helping people. We're serving people who served us, and our students are getting excellent training and experience. I think it's just a, it's just a wonderful, wonderful thing.
Okay. You have been recognized as a public service fellow here at the law school for your work in those clinics. What has it taught you? You talked a little bit about this already, but what is it that experience taught you about the kind of lawyer you want to be when you go back to West Texas, when you go back to the Permian.
Laurel
I think seeing people outside of their legal issues, the, not just the whole problem and the many solutions that can happen because I think in law school, sometimes we're taught like if this is the problem, this is the solution, or this is the law in this area, whereas in legal clinics or real world scenarios, that's not, that's not how it works. There are so many other considerations in so many other different things that play into that. And so, like being somebody who can not only be competent and be a well-rounded attorney and give legal solutions but give legal solutions considering the client as a whole, the business as a whole, whoever it may be, that those people in their lives matter.
Jeremy
Yeah.
Laurel
And this is a very big deal to them. And it's not going to be something that ends once the legal matter ends. These businesses are continuing, these people's lives are continuing. And so, remembering the humanity aspect of, I guess, the work that I do.
Jeremy
Know that for anyone who listens to this podcast and is thinking about maybe going to law school and becoming a lawyer, it's important to remember exactly what you just said.
This is a people profession. We serve people, and that's, that you've picked up on that and you're taking that with you, I think is really, really important. Okay. You and I have actually worked together because you are the executive president of our Student Bar Association. I believe that makes you the top dog in the SBA. So even though you slid into town at the very last minute, you have risen to be the student body president.
That's what, that's what you are. And I meet with the executive board of the Student Bar Association, you included. And you and I have sat across the table from each other, and you've looked me directly in the eyes on multiple occasions and said, this is what we need to do to improve things for, for students. But talk about your experience as the SBA president and how that came about, how you achieve that position, and what the work has been like.
Laurel
Yeah. So, I started as the State Bar Junior Rep. my second quarter. It's an appointed position on SBA, and we worked with the State of Texas Bar and kind of scholarship and things that they do for law schools, involvement with the law schools, different sections, business law, whatever the section may be, and getting, I guess, being kind of the liaison between the State Bar and the law school and the student body.
In theory, your next quarter, you're supposed to be the senior rep. I ended up taking, I ran and then won VP of finance, so I did not become the senior rep., I became the VP of finance. I was very comfortable in that role. That was something that I really wanted to do. I have a degree in accounting.
And so, I thought, okay, perfect, I'll go, and as VP of finance, figure out what that means. And my first two quarters or I guess my first term as VP of finance, Lauren Monroe's president. And it was excellent. We became such good friends. She's also my life group. Like, it was great. And I got a really good introduction of kind of what the executive board of SBA does, how many projects there are going.
And, you know, my VP of finance role is actually significantly larger than just the SBA budget and funds for different events that we have going on. And then I took it again for a second term, and I was VP of finance, and I was able to take on more roles because I had the experience. Last spring, I took on Law Prom, which was quite the labor of love.
But it was fun. It was something that I had never done. I had never considered myself a party planner or an events kind of person. And so, it was really fun to do that, kind of coordinate all of the different moving aspects of that. And it's a very big event for SBA. So that was fun to take over.
And then after that I became president, and I think it's been great. Like it's been fun to like work my way into it and kind of have the experience under me of seeing all the different roles that go on in SBA and how all these parts play together. But it's also been fun because we have an excellent board right now, and we have a lot of 1Ls and 2Ls.
We're pretty 1L, 2L heavy. And so, seeing the future of the SBA and the student bar and who's coming up is really exciting just to be able to be supportive to them and kind of help them gain that knowledge. And then they've also been wonderful. I'm currently in PC…
Jeremy
Practice Court
Laurel
So, they've stepped up a lot. Yeah, they've stepped up a lot and taken on so many different roles to kind of give me relief. And I think it's been great.
Jeremy
Yeah, well, I've enjoyed working with the SBA and I will just say you've done an excellent job as a leader of the Student Bar Association. And I think you've accomplished some things. I mean, I've borne witness to some of the things that you've, you've accomplished most recently are great change. And I think you can be really proud of your service there.
Okay. We have come to the lightning round. Questions are silly. Your answers have to be short.
Laurel
Okay.
Jeremy
What animal would you love to see in the wild?
Laurel
A giraffe.
Jeremy
What's the tallest thing you've ever climbed?
Laurel
I have no idea.
Jeremy
A tree?
Laurel
Probably.
Jeremy
Well, you won't see any of those in West Texas. Have you ever won a raffle or a door prize?
Laurel
I have not. My sister won a trampoline when she was in kindergarten.
Jeremy
What were your parents’ reactions having a trampoline?
Laurel
I think they were excited, but they did not understand the longevity that was just created because I think we had six trampolines after that.
Jeremy
Oh my goodness.
Laurel
Because once we had one, we always had to have one.
Jeremy
Okay. Could you go a whole day without checking your phone?
Laurel
Probably.
Jeremy
Would you rather give a speech or dance in front of a crowd?
Laurel
Give a speech.
Jeremy
Do you enjoy a surprise or do you prefer advance notice?
Laurel
Advance notice.
Jeremy
What's the first thing you notice when you meet someone?
Laurel
Generally, their eyes, I think.
Jeremy
Can you keep a plant alive?
Laurel
Absolutely not.
Jeremy
West Texas is for you. Are you competitive even when the game doesn't matter?
Laurel
Yes.
Jeremy
Would you rather put together a puzzle or build something with Lego bricks?
Laurel
Legos.
Jeremy
All right, you've got a superpower. But you have to choose between two. You can fly or you can turn invisible.
Laurel
Fly.
Jeremy
Do you read the instructions or figure it out as you go?
Laurel
Half and half. I start to try and figure it out and then realize I probably need the instructions.
Jeremy
That's me too. What is the one chore you secretly don't mind doing?
Laurel
I don't hate doing laundry.
Jeremy
What snack deserves a permanent place in the law school during finals?
Laurel
Popcorn.
Jeremy
What celebrity would you genuinely enjoy having dinner with?
Laurel
Toby Keith.
Jeremy
If Baylor Law School suddenly added one completely non-law elective, what would you want it to be?
Laurel
I think something fun like maybe P.E. or something like really active. And really…
Jeremy
We do have intramurals. You don't get course credit for it. We do have intramurals. Okay. Do you think you could recognize your own handwriting from elementary school?
Laurel
No.
Jeremy
All right. I understand you might have a question for me.
Laurel
I do.
Jeremy
Okay.
Laurel
I do have a question for you. I know we've talked about SBA and some of the things that we've been able to do. My question for you, similar. Since you've taken over as Dean, what are you the most proud of?
Jeremy
I think, and this does connect to SBA, I think I'm most proud of eliminating unconditional scholarships. That was something that, year after year after year, the SBA was pressing for.
And I looked at it. And there's a financial ramification to that from the law school standpoint. But I looked at it and I thought we can do this. This is something we can do. I also recognize, and in large part because of the SBA, that there's a, you don't want students going into final exams worried about losing a scholarship.
You know, you just, I don't, I don't want that for them. So, it looked at and I thought it was so clear that not only could we do this, we should do this. I actually hesitated, I said, it can't. It can't be this simple. I need to check. And so, I checked, and I checked, and I checked, and had other people look at the issue.
And then, you know, we just did it. And I think that has just been all around very positive. The only thing I'm kind of sad about is there's not going to be any students left in the building who ever remember the difference. You know, the institutional memory around here is three years because you start, you leave within three years.
But that's something that I'm really proud of. And I and the SBA can be really proud of having done that. I had SBA members who have graduated, who would come up to me at alumni functions and say, hey, you need to do this. You need to do this. So, it's, it was a long fight and it, and it, it eventually worked.
And I'm, I think if I'm the Dean for, I'm making these numbers up, for ten years or twenty years or thirty years, if somebody asks me that, I probably will have the same answer. So yeah, that was that's something I'm proud of.
Laurel
I think it was one of your first, wasn't it? One of your first big changes?
Jeremy
It was, it was in my first year, I think it was late October, early November, and I'd started in July. And I sent out the email just saying it, you know, all the scholarships are unconditional. If you've lost your scholarship, it's restored. That was just a pretty simple message. It was a paragraph or two and I expected like some response, like I expected questions, you know, emails back to me. I didn't see I was like, okay, well, maybe this isn't a big deal.
Well, I was teaching civil procedure at the time, and I walked into Civ Pro and I got a standing ovation. And I was like okay this is a, this is a big deal. But really the, the way that issue got raised and never was put down is because of the SBA. And I'm not talking about, you know, causing a fuss.
I'm saying the SBA did it through face-to-face meetings with good advocacy, good, high quality, respectful but firm advocacy for that. I don't know that it would have happened as soon as it did without that.
Laurel
Yeah, I think it was big, I think, well actually, I was in the law school right by those side entry doors in the main hallway, and, when the email came out, we all were, we were getting ready for adoption day, I think, doing arts and crafts and stuff. It was Harry Potter that year and…
Jeremy
We do arts and crafts for adoption day. Yes, we do.
Laurel
…and we were we were getting ready for it, and we were making all these little stars we were going to hang from the ceiling when your email came out, and everyone was like, oh my gosh, did you see your phone? Like, it was a very, very large deal…
Jeremy
Yeah.
Laurel
…for a lot of people, just because it was such a, I don't know, kind of like an invisible weight.
Jeremy
Yeah.
Laurel
Even if you weren't on the cusp of losing your scholarship, it was always like, well, if I have one bad quarter, maybe could I lose it? Should I go calculate my GPA and see like what grades I need to get just in case or whatever? So it was a very large weight.
Jeremy
And that's something else that I was always really proud of the people on the SBA is that they were not people who were necessarily at risk. I mean, they weren't within a thousand miles of losing a scholarship. They were fighting for their classmates. And I was like, well, you know what? That's what lawyers do.
We, we are other people's champions. And I just think that, again, if you if I'm, if I'm the dean for thirty years and on my thirtieth year, say, what are you, what are you most proud of, that's going to be at or near the very top of the list, I predict. And I also think it should be at or near the top of the SBA's list as great accomplishments.
Laurel
Yeah, I think it definitely is, even though realistically, there weren't a ton of students that were losing their scholarships.
Jeremy
That's right.
Laurel
A big kind of background thought I've always had on SBAs. We represent the student body as a whole, whether it applies to me or not. Meaning, when we're planning events, are we thinking about the commuter students?
Are we thinking about the students that have kids? Like, are these things attainable for everyone because we represent the student body as a whole. And I think that that's been a good background kind of consideration in all things that we do. Is that just because it doesn't apply to me doesn't mean that it doesn't exist.
Jeremy
Yeah. Well, Laurel, you've done a great job and continue to do a great job representing the students and all your other work at the law school. So thanks so much for joining the podcast.
Laurel
Thank you.
