Songwriting, Soccer, and Sami Brown's Road Back Home to Waco
Counseller's Corner - Season 3, Episode 1:
From collegiate soccer fields and music stages to Baylor Law School, Sami Brown’s path to law school has been anything but straightforward. A Waco native and second-year Baylor Law School student, Sami’s collegiate soccer career took her more than 1,300 miles from home to Northern Michigan University. There, she helped make school history on the soccer field, discovered a new sense of independence, and completed degrees in accounting and business, all while pursuing her longtime passion for music.
In this episode of Counseller’s Corner, Dean Jeremy Counseller sits down with Sami to talk about the unexpected twists that brought her back to Waco and ultimately to Baylor Law School. Sami shares what transferring across the country taught her about herself, why she changed her college major three times, and how she discovered that the discipline required by law school doesn’t mean sacrificing parts of life she loves.
Now, Sami serves her classmates through the Student Bar Association and introduces prospective students to Baylor Law as a Student Ambassador. She also reflects on her summer judicial experience, her growing interest in civil practice, and the Baylor Law School community she has found in the same city where her story began.
And, because being a law student is only one part of Sami’s story, the conversation naturally returns to music. A singer-songwriter and guitarist with an album of her own, Sami turns the tables on Dean Counseller for a spirited debate over music rankings, Spotify Wrapped, and the songs that reveal our true selves.Join us for a conversation about taking the unexpected route, embracing the interests that define who we are, and realizing that sometimes a roundabout journey can lead us right back home.
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TRANSCRIPT
Jeremy
Hello, and welcome to another edition of Counseller’s Corner. My name is Jeremy Counseller, Dean of Baylor Law School. And I'm very pleased to be joined today by second year law student Sami Brown. Sami, how are you doing?
Sami
I'm great. Thank you for having me on today. I'm so excited.
Jeremy
We're happy to have you. So being a law student is not the whole of you. You are, you have a musical background, and I want you to tell me about that.
Sami
Yes, I would love to. It is truly one of my favorite parts of my life. So, for work, what I do, I play gigs around town as a guitarist and a singer. And so that looks like, you know, different restaurants or just different venues, geared towards music or private events.
But I also was able to, a couple years ago, release an album that I wrote and that started out with a solo acoustic album. So just me and a guitar studio version. And then, I did a rerelease with a full band. Through a live show at the Texas Music Cafe. So it's been fun. It started out just gigs.
And then it has transformed into, you know, writing some and recording. It’s just been great.
Jeremy
That's, that's awesome. That's really cool. So, let's back up. My understanding is you grew up in Waco?
Sami
Yes.
Jeremy
Waco area. And then you went off to college?
Sami
Yes.
Jeremy
And you went, you attended a couple of different colleges?
Sami
I did, yeah.
Jeremy
Okay. Because you were a student athlete, right?
Sami
Yes.
Jeremy
Okay. Tell me a little bit about your student athlete experience.
Sami
Okay. So, my experience, I started off at, and to me, like, looking at it big picture now, I feel like there was a little invisible string between each place that kind of ultimately led me back here, which is cool. But so, I played soccer my whole life, and then I started off playing at Abilene Christian University out in West Texas which was awesome. I absolutely loved my time there, but I was the last class that had the opportunity to take a fifth year due to Covid, and so I had that extra year of eligibility, and we had a coaching transition right after my junior year. And so, I entered the transfer portal and I, so my criteria for transferring was either stay in Texas or stay in the conference that we were in before we switched at ACU.
Jeremy
Okay.
Sami
So naturally, I ended up at Northern Michigan University.
Jeremy
Little bit of a change.
Sami
It was. Yeah, it, not only is it you know, one of the, it's a northern state, but it is north for that state because you know, people describe Michigan on the mitten. And so, I lived in the bonus mitten up here, which is the Upper Peninsula.
And I was up here right on Lake Superior.
Jeremy
And so did you… You surely, you experienced a winter or two. You were there.
Sami
I, I experienced more winters than I ever need to in my entire life. It was, it was a lot.
Jeremy
How was that for someone who grew up in central Texas, where we don't really have winter?
Sami
So, there was a couple of things. The first year, I was up there for two years. Which, I will say, moving up there, soccer wise was great because we won conference, the, the tournament, and the titles and got to play in the NCAA tournaments for the first time in school history and then did it back-to-back.
So, it was like…
Jeremy
That's great. I'm still more interested in the winters.
Sami
The winters. Yes. So, the winters. The first thing that I noticed was, right around October is when the snow starts falling. Okay? So, if you get to Halloween and it hasn't snowed yet, that's a rarity.
Jeremy
That’s a rarity.
Sami
A rarity, yeah. And so…
Jeremy
Did you, having grown up in Texas, did you expect when it started to snow that they would just shut everything down and the world would stop turning?
Sami
Yes. So…
Jeremy
‘Cuz that's what we do here.
Sami
Like, every time I would expect a snow day, you know, like my roommates who were from up in that area, they would just laugh at me and I would explain to them, we would shut down everything if it looked like it might snow.
Jeremy
That's right.
Sami
You know, like. So, it was very different, but like, the sun is gone for six months.
So, I was super pale. That was really hard for me for a bit. But the UV is zero for like six months. But I also lived less than ten minutes away from a ski hill. And so, I got, I am a ski owner. I feel like to me that was a big deal because I feel like you always rent.
Jeremy
You own your own set of skis.
Sami
I own my own skis. Feel very proud of that. And, you know, you just get a season pass and you can go ski all the time. But, yeah, it snows. It snowed at my graduations too in May. So, it's, it's pretty serious.
Jeremy
Okay, now you can talk about the success you had.
Sami
Oh, okay. The soccer success?
Well, so it was I transferred up there, and, it was to me, it was a really big move because I had not met a soul up there in person. Like I talked to the coach on the phone. I had texted with a girl who I was going to room with who now is going to be in my wedding.
So that was, you know, it's just awesome in that way. And I'd never seen the area. And so, it was really just like a, like, okay, like, let's pack the car and drive 22 hours. And I got up there and the people were great, the team was great, the coach was. And then we were so blessed to see success on the field, too.
So, it was, it really just turned out to be a great thing, even though, you know, so much anxiety was surrounding it and so much unknown at the beginning.
Jeremy
So, from there, you come back to your hometown to go to law school, and I'm. What's it been like to come back?
Sami
It has been great. I think, you know, when you hear this a lot, when people go off to school and, you know, when I was in Abilene, I experienced some of this.
But at the same time, I was, you know, still only three hours from home. I came home a lot. And it's Texas, right? Like, so I felt familiar with the area and the people and, so going off to Michigan, I felt like, you know, it's nobody here knows me, has any context for me, like, who am I?
Whenever I get to start totally from scratch and I don't, I don't think I change. I think I more so like, found out which parts of me were really of my own volition, you know, and I think those really came out. And so, I came back with kind of a confidence, and also an appreciation for growing up near all my family.
And just like I was happy to come back. I was happy for my experience, but I was super excited to come back to Waco.
Jeremy
That's great. That's great. You, my understanding is you considered becoming a physician assistant at one point.
Sami
I did.
Jeremy
Which puts the lie to anyone who has a notion that you need to have known you wanted to be a lawyer all your life to go to law school.
So, so tell me, how do you go from thinking you want to be a physician's assistant to actually moving through law school?
Sami
Yeah. So, Yeah, absolutely. I hope I can be an inspiration to anyone who changes their major, because I changed mine three times. And I started off kinesiology, because, you know, and I think it was a good...
Jeremy
You're an athlete.
Sami
Yeah. You know, I was like, that makes sense. Like, I thought I wanted to do something that, like, I thought was cool and helped other people. And I was like, that'll be good. And so, in middle school-ish, I decided that was my life plan. And then freshman year of college, I remember sitting there and being like, you know, like, maybe I don't actually want to do this.
And so, I, you know, I remember pulling the trigger on, like, okay, I'm going to switch to business. And then, business was fine. But I remember and this is like, I think, a very unique experience. And I'm, I still don't really understand it because I think I'm more of like an artistic, creative person. But managerial accounting.
Okay. I that class really spoke to me. I'm not sure why.
Jeremy
Yeah.
Sami
Yeah. Speaks to very few people.
Jeremy
So, this is something you and I have in common.
Sami
Is it?
Jeremy
When I took an accounting class, I was dreading it. Yeah. And I was like, no, this is great.
Sami
Yes.
Jeremy
You put everything where it's supposed to.
Sami
Where it goes.
Jeremy
…where it goes. Yes, I loved it.
Sami
A list of rules. And…
Jeremy
That's right.
Sami
Yep, yep. That's right. That's why we you know, I'm in law school and you're the dean of the law school.
Jeremy
I guess. But who knew that that was relevant, you know?
Sami
Seriously?
Jeremy
Yeah.
Sami
And so, I remember after that I, that summer, I did an internship with James and Lisa Rainey, here in town, which they're amazing.
And I know they teach elder law up here.
Jeremy
Yeah.
Sami
But I, I remember talking to them and they were like, you know, maybe you should do something more specific. And they said something about accounting, and I was like, oh, okay. I'm taking that as a sign. I switched to accounting. And I finished off my accounting degree in Michigan.
And then I had that extra year, and I was having so much fun. Like, I can't I can't even express to you…
Jeremy
So, did you do a master's degree in accounting?
Sami
No, I did a master's in business,
Jeremy
Okay, okay.
Sami
Yeah, in general business. But when I first got up to Michigan, you have to understand, like, I…
There is no greater time than preseason for a college sport, because all you're doing is play your sport, work out, hang out with your friends, eat food, go to sleep. And so, it's just like a really fun time. And then add on top of that in the summer. That is how the Upper Peninsula tricks people into moving there because it's paradise.
Jeremy
Yeah.
Sami
It's Paradise. I was, you know, less than a 15-minute walk from the beach where you could go cliff jumping, you could see the Northern lights, you could go hiking,
Jeremy
Cliff jumping. Like you jump off a cliff into what?
Sami
Into Lake Superior.
Jeremy
Oh, okay. Into a lake. Okay.
Sami
Yeah. Into, into Lake Superior. So, I was living what I call summer camp dream world.
Jeremy
Yeah.
Sami
And then school started. So that was that was a tough transition for me senior year.
Jeremy
Yeah, I've, I've heard great things about Upper Michigan in the summer. And so that's I'm not surprised to hear you say that. Okay. Let's talk about some of the things you do at the law school. Aside from being a student, you serve as a student ambassador.
Sami
Yes.
Jeremy
Tell me about student ambassador, what you do for…
Sami
So, okay. So, for student ambassadors, basically, we are the admission team's line of contact as students for whenever prospective students or recently admitted students come to campus. And, you know, we host events for them or also if they want to do tours and things like that. I love doing it because I really feel very passionately that Baylor Law is awesome, like I really do.
I think maybe at my internships this summer I was obnoxious, borderline about that. But so, I really, I love telling people about the great aspects of Baylor. Some of those I think include the smaller class sizes. I remember 1Q what stuck out to me was I'd been there for less than two months, and I felt like I knew everybody's name, like I had relationships with them and my professors.
People were helpful. I think it generates a close knit culture here because, you know, since we know each other and we're in close quarters all the time, you get to know them personally. And they're not just, like, competition grade wise.
Jeremy
Yeah.
Sami
And also, I, I know that, that sometimes people have misconceptions I would call it, about Waco.
And so, I love to be able to tell people like, know you can have a great time here. Like you really can.
Jeremy
Yeah. Well, that's great. And you're also involved in the Student Bar Association. So, tell us what you do for the Student Bar Association.
Sami
Okay. So, for the SBA, which is like our student governing body for anyone that doesn't know, I am the American Bar Association senior representative.
I was junior rep last year. And so, other than being a general member of SBA and that kind of includes advocating for any needs or things that our student body is wanting, to be addressed or they have ideas, concerns. We plan events like all of the socials - law, prom. But recent development, everybody is getting every student is getting an ABA membership this year.
And so me and Elizabeth Mar, who's the junior rep, we are in charge of kind of getting some of the representatives here putting out information how they can take advantage. Our students can take advantage of the membership and things like that.
Jeremy
So, you've got these, your SBA student ambassador, obviously you're busy with classes. Tell me something. After about a year of law school, what have you learned about yourself in law school?
Sami
I've learned that I'm, I can be more disciplined than I thought I can, which was, I think, more of an anxiety coming in because you just hear things from people about, you know, how difficult this is and what, what the structure of everything looks like. And I think when you let your mind run, it's like, you know, like, I hope I can do that.
And it's, I was pleasantly surprised to see that, like that discipline is possible without, you know, you don't have to sacrifice your life enjoyment. You, and I also was so glad to find this is nothing. I know we, we did share the fact that managerial accounting spoke to us, but I am much more interested in the classes here than I was during undergrad as an accounting major.
And so that was something that also made it easier. I really enjoy what we're learning.
Jeremy
Yeah, yeah. That's great. That's great. Yeah, I mean discipline is important.
Sami
Yeah,
Jeremy
Yeah. And that you've, you've learned that about yourself is really good. Okay. You, you mentioned earlier an upcoming wedding.
Sami
Yes.
Jeremy
So, tell us to the extent you're comfortable, tell us about your fiancé and how you, you met him.
Sami
So, my fiancé is another 2L at the law school. And so, we…
Jeremy
Tell us at least his first name.
Sami
His name is Matt Brigman. I'll tell you all that, because that will be my last name soon. Which, which, I will say because I love my last name. Right?
Jeremy
It’s a step down for you.
Sami
At least, though, it's a step up alphabetically. And that, to me, matters.
Jeremy
So not much of one.
Sami
It is one step up. In graduation, we are. It would have been Brigman, Brown. So let's just all say thank you that it worked out.
Jeremy
Okay. He's still going to be ahead of you…
Sami
He's going to be ahead…
Jeremy
of alphabetical because then they will go... But if it's a tie by the last name, they'll go by the first name.
Sami
Yeah. Yeah. So they'll, he'll be, he'll be ahead.
Jeremy
Did he happen to mention to you what I said to him in the hallway the other day?
Sami
Yes he did.
Jeremy
How did he report to you what I said?
Sami
So, here's how he reported. I don't remember what I was doing, but I got a text that said, Dean Counseller just patted me on the shoulder and said, “Did she call it off yet?”.
And I said, nope. And he said good. And he said, you just deadpan kept walking. He said that.
Jeremy
Well, what else is there to say? I'm just curious.
Sami
Right?
Jeremy
Yeah, I was just curious. I know he's not going to call it off.
Sami
No.
Jeremy
And I want it to go forward. So my only concern is that you might call it off.
Sami
You know what?
It's, it's looking, it's looking great.
Jeremy
Okay, good. So I'm pleased to hear it.
Sami
So, I will. So Matt, I just want to brag on him for a second because I think he brings so much unique experience to the law school. He was active-duty Air Force for nine years. And then in between working after his active-duty service, he became a officer with the Navy.
And he continues to serve today as a reservist. But during all of this active duty, he was able to earn his bachelors and his masters in policy analysis, which I think is really cool. And so, I just, other than like his accomplishments, I just, he's, I think he's so well-rounded music-wise, just we have the same taste in everything.
It's and I think one of the best parts is that, recent graduate of Baylor. I guess it's been three years now. Rachel Hales, she is his sister-in-law, and she's an attorney in Waco. And his brother, it works out at China's Spring as a choir director. So, it's like, to me, it's the perfect, perfect circle.
Jeremy
That's great. Yeah. That's great. Okay. And the wedding is upcoming or…
Sami
Yes, it is during spring break.
Jeremy
Oh, that's right, you told me this. Well, that's…
Sami
Yeah.
Jeremy
That's good. Okay. Talk about some of the opportunities you've had. Maybe this summer. I know you had a busy summer.
Sami
Okay.
Jeremy
Talk to us about what you did this summer.
Sami
Yeah. This summer felt like a whirlwind in the best way. So, in May, I did an internship with Judge Hoffman, who's a district court judge in Dallas County. And so that was for three weeks. And what that included was a lot of observation. And we got to partake in, like, the voire dire process and, just get to observe and take notes.
And there was, I will say there was intern jeopardy and a memo competition. We, so we got to write memos on some active cases. And Baylor won intern jeopardy!
Jeremy
Oh, that's great. And we won best memo. So, we had a full sweep. It was great.
Jeremy
Well done.
Sami
Yeah.
Jeremy
Way to represent.
Sami
Thank you. Yeah, it was proud.
Jeremy
That's awesome. So, what do you think? Aside from getting married and becoming a lawyer, what do you think the future holds for you?
Sami
I think the civil side for sure. To me, what I think, I don't, I'm not sure. I think civil litigation. I could be very happy. I also really kind of like, I kind of feel drawn to real estate and, like, property concepts, and like, elder law estate planning.
Jeremy
Okay.
Sami
So, so I don't know, it'll be a toss-up, but I think any way that I land in this category.
Jeremy
It sounds to me like you and Matt may be getting sucked into long term in Waco that you both have roots here in. Yeah, well, there are worse places.
Sami
I know. I, I, I love Waco. I've always said that, you know, whatever, whatever the, the recent future holds.
I do see myself raising a family here. I, I, I loved growing up here, and so I think it's, it's the way to go.
Jeremy
Yeah. Okay. We have come to the lightning round.
Sami
Oh, okay.
Jeremy
All right, so the questions are silly. Okay. And your answers have to be short. Concert or sporting event?
Sami
Concert.
Jeremy
Early morning or late night?
Sami
Late night.
Jeremy
What's your most used emoji?
Sami
Fire.
Jeremy
Detailed schedule or flexible to do list?
Sami
Flexible to do list.
Jeremy
Oh, here's one for you. Texas summer or Michigan winter?
Sami
Michigan winter. Oh, that. That must be a tough call. That was a tough one.
Jeremy
Cook at home or go out to eat?
Sami
Go out to eat.
Jeremy
Small group or big gathering?
Sami
Big gathering.
Jeremy
Challenging question for you, I would imagine if you could see any artist live tomorrow. Who would it be?
Sami
Oh my gosh.
Wow. I'm going to go with Billy Strings.
Jeremy
Favorite Waco restaurant?
Sami
Jorge’s.
Jeremy
Okay. You suddenly have two free hours. How do you spend them?
Sami
Basin rock climbing gym.
Jeremy
What is one thing you always have with you during a long day at the law school?
Sami
A Celsius.
Jeremy
What is that?
Sami
It's an energy drink. Unfortunately.
Jeremy
What is one app on your phone you couldn't give up?
Sami
Oh, my alarm app.
Jeremy
Yeah. Me too.
Board game or card game?
Sami
Card game.
Jeremy
Correct answer. Okay, I understand you have a question for me.
Sami
I have, I have two questions for you. All right. I see how the first one goes before we commit to the second. The second one is more of a, it's an interactive question.
Jeremy
We don't even know if we're gonna get to the second. So, you better ask the first one.
Sami
The first question is, if you were to start a podcast completely independent of Baylor, what would it be about and why?
Jeremy
Okay, this is a good question because actually, think about this a lot. And, and I really do want to start a podcast that has nothing to do with the law, nothing to do with Baylor Law School.
I want to start a podcast about television shows. I love watching television. I know that people that's a terrible thing for me to say. I'm supposed to watch, like watching something or doing something that's more interesting. Yeah, but I love television.
Sami
That's respectable.
Jeremy
And so that's what I would do. I would sort of podcast basically telling people, this is what I think about this television show.
This is a show you how to watch. This is a show you shouldn't watch. And just really geeking out about television shows.
Sami
So, I think you probably should do that. And so specifically TV shows rather than movies?
Jeremy
Yeah.
Sami
Okay.
Jeremy
I don't, I like movies too, but I feel like I would do a podcast about TV shows.
Sami
Okay. That's fair. Can I ask a brief follow-up on a TV show?
Jeremy
Is this in addition to your planned second question?
Sami
Yes.
Jeremy
Okay. Go ahead.
Sami
What is your take on the Queen's Gambit?
Jeremy
This is the Anna Taylor Joy show?
Sami
The chess show? Have you seen that?
Jeremy
Yes, I have.
Sami
Okay.
Jeremy
I liked it.
Sami
Okay. Okay. That's good, because I. I personally loved that show. I don't know if it's because my chess knowledge was limited, but I thought it was a stroke of genius.
Jeremy
Yeah.
Sami
And people have disagreed with me, so I was, you know, as a connoisseur, I wanted to know your opinion. Okay. Do we?
Jeremy
Go ahead with the second one.
Sami
The second question?
Jeremy
The second question is good.
Sami
Okay. Here is,
Jeremy
Oh my God, there's documentation involved.
Sami
Yes. So, I'll explain the list at the top. All right. Is, so Rolling Stones has their top 500 songs of all-time list. And so, these are five randomly generated songs. And I wanted to do this.
Jeremy
from that top 100
Sami
From...
Jeremy
Okay.
Sami
Yeah, from that list. And so what I wanted to do because I, you share your Spotify Wrapped was,
Jeremy
Yeah.
Sami
I wanted to see your ranking on these songs, and I have my ranking here.
Jeremy
Of the same five?
Sami
Yes.
Jeremy
Okay.
Sami
Yeah. So, you can rank these songs according to however.
Jeremy
Okay.
Sami
Whatever criteria.
Jeremy
Can I say which five I have to rank here?
Sami
Yes.
Jeremy
Okay. We've got “Superstition” by Stevie Wonder, “My Girl” by The Temptations, “Go your own way”, Fleetwood Mac, “Your song”, Elton John, “Poncho and Lefty”, Townes Van Zandt. Okay. So just a comment. “Poncho and Lefty”, the Towne's Van Zandt version is not one I'm as familiar with, as I am with the Willie Nelson.
Sami
Yeah.
Jeremy
And gang. But I'm going to go, number five.
I'm sorry, but I'm going to go “My Girl” Okay. Number four.
Number four. I'm going to go “Your Song” by Elton John.
Number three is going to be. I'm going to, I'm going to go “Poncho and Lefty”, which I would put higher if I were more familiar with the version.
Sami
Okay.
Jeremy
Number two. What have I got left here? I'm going to go “Superstition”. And then number one is “Go Your Own Way” by Fleetwood Mac.
Sami
Okay. Very respectable. I, I just have to say. So, we ranked number five “My Girl” the same.
Jeremy
Okay.
Sami
Great song. You know, it's just one of those ones that's really overdone, I think. Which is, you know, not the song’s fault. Not The Temptations fault. “Your Song”, absolute classic. I have that as number four as well.
Jeremy
Okay.
Sami
For me, it was that I just. There's some Elton songs I like better.
I had number three “Superstition”.
Jeremy
Okay.
Sami
Number two “Go Your Own Way”. And then number one, “Poncho and Lefty”.
Jeremy
Okay. Those are the top three for me are difficult. Difficult to distinguish.
Sami
Yeah. They are.
Jeremy
This was a very complicated second question. What if I had said no? Then all of this documentation would have been a waste of time.
Sami
It would have. It would have. Probably would have crushed me, actually.
Jeremy
Well, we don't want to do that.
Sami
Yeah. So I, I, you know, I respect your music taste from what I've seen already with your Spotify Wrapped, but I've really mostly seen, more pop-styled taste from you. So, I was very curious what your ranking would be, and I'm impressed.
Jeremy
So, so with, with my Spotify Wrapped, it's one of those things where there's this person I think I am. So, I think, I think I am, grunge rock from the 90s. I think I'm Pearl Jam, I think I'm Nirvana, I think I'm Soundgarden. But then when they track what I actually listen to, the truth is I'm. I'm Taylor Swift.
The truth is, I'm Olivia Rodrigo, and, and I find a lot of theological truth in that. You know, there's the person we think we are, and there's the person we actually are.
Sami
That's really beautiful.
Jeremy
Yeah. So, I can tell you're sincere.
Sami
So, I have to say that, well, I'm an Apple Music user. Just fun fact, with the streaming, after you record songs, every stream on Apple Music, I get $0.01. In every stream on Spotify, I get one third of a cent.
And so, I never thought I would appreciate the difference between one full cent and a third. But so, I'm a I'm a proponent of Apple Music for that reason. But I don't enjoy my Apple Music.
Jeremy
This is for your own album.
Sami
For my own album, but…
Jeremy
which is called what?
Sami
Seeker.
Jeremy
Seeker. Okay.
Sami
But I will say…
Jeremy
I'll go stream seeker three times on Spotify.
Sami
Please do. Yeah. You'll get me closer to a dollar. But I accidentally one of the best and worst things I did to myself as a student was, I have Pavlov myself. To one Tommy Emmanuel instrumental guitar album. And, you know, it's like when it comes on, boom. Its focus time and, like, flow state is possible, but it's always my top 15 listen to songs and it has ruined my station.
My. Yeah, it thinks I just want to listen to classical guitar. But you know, that's the price you pay as a student, I think. So what you got to do?
Jeremy
It's part of who you are now.
Sami
It's part of who I am. Yeah.
Jeremy
Sammy. Thanks. It's been great. Appreciate you.
Sami
Thank you so much for having me.
